Which is better quality, T10 tool steel or 9260 spring steel

Hamon and blade of the SBG 'Kuramono' T10 tool steel Katana

Hamon and blade of the SBG 'Kuramono' T10 tool steel Katana

QUESTION


Which one is better the T10 or the 9260 spring steel? Which can cut better, which can bend and which is harder? Which is all around better for swords?

ANSWER


I get asked this question a fair bit, and having torture tested swords made from both of these steels - and my answer will have to be a bit of a long winded one as 'better' is such a hard term to define (because it depends on what targets you intend to use the sword on!)..

T10 is a harder steel than 9260. Indeed, it is very similar to 1095 (.95% carbon) carbon steel, and 9260 is similar to 1060 (.6% carbon) - and as you may know a sword with a higher carbon content is (all other things being equal) harder than one with a lower carbon content. The main difference between these two steels and the 'plain Jane' vaninlla carbon steels is the addition of various alloying agents (Tungsten in the case of T10 and Silicon for the 9260).

In my experience, I've found that 9260 works better when it is monotempered (i.e. is the same hardness of steel all the way through) while T10 comes into its own when it is clay tempered and differentially hardened in the traditional way.

When monotempered, the extremely flexible qualities of 9260 Spring Steel come into their own as demonstrated in the following video.



When you differentially harden it (like with the Cheness Kaze Katana) you lose this quality, but still end up with a sword that is slightly more resiliant than most other steels (as a rule, differentially hardened swords with a real hamon cannot flex sideways like a monotempered sword. Well, they can - but they don't flex back if you know what I mean)!!

T10 on the other hand is not as flexible or as durable as 9260 when it is monotempered, but in my experience when it is differentially hardened it has a harder and sharper edge, and seems to really take a nice hamon..

And as you can see from the video below, is more than tough enough for everyday cutting practices.



So in conclusion, 9260 blades are best when monotempered - and are durable, flexible and great for a beginner who may accidently botch a cut or two.

T10 blades seem to be best when differentially hardened - taking on a very attractive and traditional hamon, and are more than strong enough for normal cutting.

Bear in mind of course that there is no such thing as a miracle steel, a well made 1060 carbon steel sword can, for all intents and purposes, do pretty much anything a 9260 blade can.

What matters most is WHO made it, how it was forged and tempered and other very important considerations that are often forgotten such as the quality and structural integrity of the fittings, etc.

For more information on steel types (including additional information on 9260 and T10 steel, as well as many others) see this article: Common Sword Steels 101 on our sister site.

I know it is not exactly a 'straight' answer - but as with many sword questions, they are often a bit more complicated than they first appear. ;-)

Hope this helps anyway.

- Paul




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Which is better quality, T10 tool steel or 9260 spring steel

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Feb 13, 2012
MORE ERRORS NEW
by: E Gray

AISI 9620 STEEL COMPOSITION
should be
AISI 9260 STEEL COMPOSITION.




AISI 9629 MECHANICAL PROPERTIES
Should be
AISI 9620 MECHANICAL PROPERTIES

Feb 12, 2012
T10 CORRECTION AND 9260 STATS NEW
by: E Gray

I apologize for the duplicate posts yesterday. When my post did not show up, I refreshed my browser several times so I figured I messed up. Then after I re-posted both posts showed up.

Also, I made an error on the W1 copper content, it should be 0.00% to 0.02% vice 0.2%.

I thought the mechanical properties of W1 and 9620 steel would be of interest. As would the composition of 9620 steel.

AISI W1 MECHANICAL PROPERTIES
Hardness, Brinell 575
Hardness, Knoop 642
Hardness, Rockwell C 56
Hardness, Vickers 619
Tensile Strength, Ultimate 213900 psi
Tensile Strength, Yield 149000 psi
Elongation at Break 12.0 %
Modulus of Elasticity 29700 ksi
Bulk Modulus 20300 ksi
Poissons Ratio 0.280
Machinability 40 %
Shear Modulus 11600 ksi

AISI 9620 STEEL COMPOSITION
Carbon 0.560% to 0.640 %
Manganese 0.750% to 1.00 %
Phosphorus 0.00% to 0.0350%
Silicon 1.80% to 2.20%
Sulfur 0.00% to 0.0400%
And the Remainder is Iron

AISI 9629 MECHANICAL PROPERTIES
Hardness, Brinell 184 to 235
Hardness, Knoop 233
Hardness, Rockwell B 94
Hardness, Rockwell C 15.0
Hardness, Vickers 221
Tensile Strength, Ultimate 112000 psi to 221200 psi
Tensile Strength, Yield 63800 psi to166600 psi
Elongation at Break 11.0% to 22.0 %
Modulus of Elasticity 29000 ksi
Bulk Modulus 20300 ksi
Poissons Ratio 0.290
Machinability 40 %
Shear Modulus 11600 ksi

Feb 11, 2012
CHINESE T10 IS US W1 STEEL (TRY 2) NEW
by: E Gray

T10 Tool Steel is a Chinese designation for a water hardening high carbon tool steel with about 1% carbon content. The US designation of this steel is W1. The W series of tool steels are a very simple alloy group, low cost, and responsive to simple heating and water quenching for hardening. The alloy does undergo considerable distortion during quenching. This alloy is one of the common Water Hardening tool steel grades available. W1 is basically a simple high carbon steel and is easily hardened by heating and quenching in water, just as with plain carbon steel alloys.

W1 STEEL COMPOSITION
Carbon 0.70% to 1.50%
Chromium 0.15%
Copper 0.2%
Manganese 0.10% to 0.40%
Molybdenum 0.10%
Nickel 0.20%
Phosphorus 0.00% to 0.025%
Silicon 0.10% to 0.40%
Sulphur 0.00% to 0.025%
Tungsten 0,50%
Vanadium 0.10%
And the Remainder is Iron

Feb 11, 2012
CHINESE T10 IS US W1 NEW
by: E Gray

T10 Tool Steel is a Chinese designation for a water hardening high carbon tool steel with about 1% carbon content. The US designation of this steel is W1. The W series of tool steels are a very simple alloy group, low cost, and responsive to simple heating and water quenching for hardening. The alloy does undergo considerable distortion during quenching. This alloy is one of the common Water Hardening tool steel grades available. W1 is basically a simple high carbon steel and is easily hardened by heating and quenching in water, just as with plain carbon steel alloys.

W1 STEEL COMPOSITION:
Carbon 0.70% to 1.50%
Chromium 0.15%
Copper 0.2%
Manganese 0.10% to 0.40%
Molybdenum 0.10%
Nickel 0.20%
Phosphorus 0.00% to 0.025%
Silicon 0.10% to 0.40%
Sulphur 0.00% to 0.025%
Tungsten 0,50%
Vanadium 0.10%
And the Remainder is Iron

Feb 03, 2012
Correction to my last... NEW
by: Cedric D

I have been taking this research of Katanas and steel probably to an obsessive level... I just hate buying things twice, buy it once buy it right! And I have been researching this T10 Steel you speak of (NOT to be mistaken with T1 Tungsten High speed Steel). Unless my engineering degree is just a piece of paper in my office and MatWeb is wrong T1 tool steel contains NO tungsten whatsoever. Just saying... T1 tool steel is however a tungsten alloy which is extremely wear resistant for it contains 18% Tungsten and somewhat rust resistant with 4% Chromium. T1 would probably be an amazing blade but the tungsten in those quantities would make it difficult to forge.

Feb 03, 2012
Tungsten?? NEW
by: Cedric D

I have been taking this research of Katanas and steel probably to an obsessive level... I just hate buying things twice, buy it once buy it right! And I have been researching this T1 Steel you speak of (NOT to be mistaken with T10 Tungsten High speed Steel). Unless my engineering degree is just a piece of paper in my office and MatWeb is wrong T1 tool steel contains NO Tungsten whatsoever. T10 tool steel is however a tungsten alloy which is extremely wear resistant for it contains 18% Tungsten and somewhat rust resistant with 4% Chromium. T10 would probably be an amazing blade but the tungsten in those quantities would make it difficult to forge.

Aug 26, 2011
i need help
by: japaneselover

i want to have a costomized katana that suit me completly but i dont have a million dollars what i want is a katana that has a strong metal that will not chip scratch or bend and a tsba dosent mtter the metal as long as its not plastic that has a wold motif and same with menuki and butt cap i want it in the style of the torakami but in wolf form can anyone help me im willing to spend 300 and no less

Jun 18, 2011
Sword n armory
by: Anonymous

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Jun 18, 2011
Sword n armory
by: Anonymous

check out sowrd N armory great sword I just bought a sword there my name is james phillips check out my review, Handmade Munetoshi Take Katana Samurai Sword Blue Sharp that is what thes word is called great sword for 129.99, also id buy from sbg this site they also have great swords for sale.

Dec 28, 2010
thanke you!
by: manuel

I would like to thanke you very much, it was a very help full. can u recomand me a cheep sword that is no more than 150$? thank you a lot!

Aug 23, 2010
interesting
by: Riccardo

this realy helped me but i'm still woundering what will last longer.

Jul 03, 2010
t10 vs spring steel
by: a guy

thanks for answering a question i had in mind!

Apr 28, 2010
Hmmm
by: Zed

I have to admit I am a sucker for a real hamon but I have to fight my emotions and try to think what can handle a batlle field better? ( lol well that's my personal idea of a good sword)

but what I REALLY want to know how does the L6 bainite compare I know it is meant to be awesome but why is it awesome exactly I am not sure... I mean I saw the intro vid on YouTube but how much does it exceed what the other metals can do? L6 vs T10 vs 9260 is what I reaaalllly want to see :D

Mar 04, 2010
Technical data confusion
by: Josh

I am interested in the physical composition of metals, ans have found technical data on tool steels T1 through T8 and T15, but not T10 (on eFunda). Are T1 and T10 the same? Is the 0 left off on the technical data sheets? or are they for some reason skipping T10?

Dec 11, 2009
Damascus
by: Anonymous

Carbon steel is probably the oldest source of great cutting tools, but is it as good as the newer Damascus folded models?

My perosnal favorite is tool t10,but for flash and sparing 9260 is the right tools

Dec 05, 2009
No problems
by: Paul Southren

No problems Maurice, and good to hear from you again my friend.

Best wishes,
Paul Southren

Dec 05, 2009
answerd my thoughts
by: Maurice Toowoomba QLD

Thanks Paul this is a question Iv been wanting to ask you and that is always on my mind when ever I look at any sword thanks.

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